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i've only just joined but i would be grateful if you could give me some information on this ngo business.. i live in england, am completly ignorant and no nothing about the un (everything i learnt in school went in one ear and out the other as did much else i learnt!).
i would be grateful if someone could explain what ngo is exactly and how jw's were involved with it.. much appreciated.
Hiya,
Welcome to the board
If you click the search button at the top of this page and do a search for United nations or NGO, I'm sure you'll find a wealth of info, the topic has been covered many times already. Care to tell us a little about yourself?
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just a reminder for everyone .... panorama should be starting in 15 minutes on bbc1.
get your vcrs and pc tv capture cards ready !!
Live chat on BBC5 has just started
dear ex jw's:.
if some of you remember my initial entrance to these boards was commenting on the child abuse situation.
i stayed to long... i was feeling the tension of several discussions with some of the people i work with who are active jw's.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz........
secret database protects paedophiles .
the jehovah's witnesses organisation keeps a sex offenders register that nobody outside the church is allowed to see, a former "elder" tells panorama.
bill bowen, who has spent his lifetime as a jehovah's witness and over twenty years as an elder, says the organisation covers up abuse by keeping this database secret.
Having spoken to an elder about the Panorama programme, it seems the Society have already issued a letter, most probably the same as the US one, to be read at Tuesday's bookstudy. Should be interesting whether the issue is addressed in any way at the upcoming Conventions..
And gave no thought to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God, but he humbled himself and took a slave's form, John says.
Aha, but he didn't exactely stop anyone calling him their God now did he?
I really don't think the author's aim was to prove or disprove the Trinity, he is obviously a Trinitarian! The point was to show that in his opinion, it was arguable as to whether the Society even know who God is, and that by showing indecision on such a fundamental issue, they surely cannot be deemed worthy spiritual teachers, let alone God's mouthpiece. If they're not sure who'se mouth to be transcribing from, well...could be absolutely anyone's, eh?
just recieved a couple of old booklets and pamphlets this morning, and thought i'd share some amusing passages i've found so far .
a bit of "interesting" logic to start off with: .
if he were to be visible, no sign would be needed.
Just recieved a couple of old booklets and pamphlets this morning, and thought I'd share some amusing passages I've found so far
A bit of "interesting" logic to start off with:
If he were to be visible, no sign would be needed. Since a sign was foretold, he must come invisibly.
- "The sign of Christ's presence", p.1, 1950s pamphlet
Okkkk....
Another Rutherford gem:
Religion and Christianity are not the same thing.They are directly opposed to each other. [...] Satan the devil introduced religion to man.
- "Conspiracy against Democracy", p.5, 1940
And to back that up, ten-odd years later...
Which religion bears the fruits that identify it as the one right religion? Rather than its being one of the many popular, respected orthodox religions of Christendom, do not the facts say it is Jehovah's witnesses?
- "Which is the right religion?", p.6, 1950s pamplet
Erm...
Edited by - fatal error on 5 July 2002 9:29:46
Now you're getting emotional--fanatical even--and you lose me there.
First off, please go back to the top of my original post, where I clearly state that this isn't my own research.
Second, I agree with willy, how can a GOD who is omnipresent, omnipotent, etc, etc.. not be capable of allocating a probably infinitiseemily(sp??) small part of himself to pop down on earth and set the straying sheep straight? Or maybe the WT GOD is just a small boastful entity, vying for the crown..
...with stops along the way in bird-in-hand and lancaster.. that's right.
today, i, my wife and my mother-in-law loaded ourselves into the car and drove down to pennsylvania dutch country, where we visited the towns of intercourse, paradise, and the others i mentioned.
we went to the mennonite information center, where we heard a lecture about the israelite tabernacle in the wilderness, enhanced by viewing an actual size model of the tabernacle.
I bet the peeps in that town are very loving!
Should be fixed now
3 situations can be brought out of all of this:
1. The "new light/old light" theory.
2. The Society are in fact teaching the Trinity without being aware of it.
3. The Society have no idea who God/Jesus is, wether a Trinity or not, and thus are false prophets who don't know their foot from their elbow thus and unfit to lead 6-odd million people.
1 can be ruled out as each article clearly contradicts the other. 3 disqualifies the Society as being "the Truth". 2 leads to serious questioning of the non-trinity teaching, the Society's spiritual superiority, and opens up the door for worship of Jesus as God, doing away with the requierement for salvation through an organisation.
